| | | | | the counter and went home. We had an company |
| | | | | accommodation where all four Managers lived in |
| The Champion Salesperson, True Story | | | | separate rooms. After we had dinner, we had a |
| True story of Max Kumar, Managing Director. | | | | little conversation. What you must say to the |
| Sales Coaching and Interview. | | | | customer to convince him to buy these |
| | | | | expensive watches. I had no clue about watches |
| Max Kumar is 30 years old and he already has 15 | | | | and this time my boss gave the Swiss Watch |
| years of experience with sales and marketing in | | | | Manual with almost 500 pages. What this book |
| places such as Dubai, Mumbai, Jamaica, United | | | | was about, the history of different watch |
| Kingdom and At Sea. | | | | companies, their manufacturing process and |
| | | | | location, their models, numbers, brand |
| Can you get friendly with a stranger in less than | | | | ambassadors etc. |
| 30 seconds? | | | | |
| | | | | In the next few months I was the watch |
| Can you look at someone for the first time and | | | | encyclopaedia. I was selling Maurice Lacroix as if |
| figure out his or her credit card limit? | | | | there was no tomorrow and Roger Federer was |
| | | | | the brand ambassador for Maurice Lacroix those |
| Have you sold one diamond ring for $30,000 US | | | | days. I sold a Perrellet watch to someone who |
| Dollars? | | | | came in asking for a Rolex. I sold him Perellet and |
| | | | | he had never heard of it before and this watch |
| A man walks inside your store asking for a Rolex | | | | was 18kt gold and worth $15,000 US Dollars. The |
| and wants to spend approx. $6,000 US Dollars | | | | customer wanted to spend 6k and I end up |
| and you end up selling him a watch for $15,000 | | | | making him spend 15k. He was the owner of a |
| US Dollars and the watch he has never heard of | | | | golf course in Boston, M.A”. I was gifted an |
| before in his entire life? | | | | Elini watch worth $1200 US Dollars by the |
| | | | | company for being the best salesperson in the |
| Have you sold a natural yellow fancy diamond | | | | Caribbean for their line and I was also regarded as |
| bracelet worth $18,000 to a lady come on a | | | | the best Maurice Lacroix salesman in the |
| cruise ship and walks in your store for the first | | | | Caribbean”. |
| time ever? | | | | |
| | | | | |
| Exclusive Interview with Max Kumar..... | | | | 23) Give us a |
| | | | | demo of a live watch sale please? |
| 1) Please tell us about how you entered sales | | | | “Max Kumar asking me, “What watch are |
| and marketing? | | | | you wearing, Citizen. What a nice watch, I like the |
| “I started my sales career in Mumbai, India | | | | gold plating, the dome shaped crystal, it really sits |
| where I first started selling Standard Chartered | | | | nice on your wrist and does not turn around, it |
| credit cards in the year 2001 and I worked for | | | | must be a very comfy watch and it actually suits |
| Impact Marketing, Direct Sales Agents for | | | | your personality as shoes and watch say |
| Standard Chartered Bank.” | | | | everything about a man and this one just |
| | | | | matches your stature. One of the best features |
| 2) Tell us about your first customer | | | | of this watch is that it is kinetic and does not |
| “It was a job which involved cold calling and I | | | | need a battery”. |
| was very nervous knowing that I will have to | | | | |
| walk in someone’s office for the first time | | | | 24) What did |
| even though they had never seen me before and | | | | you enjoy selling diamonds or watches? |
| I am going there to sell them a credit card”. | | | | “To be honest, watches but I sold diamonds |
| | | | | as well. My highest sale for one diamond ring is |
| 3) How was the experience of walking in a | | | | $30,000 US Dollars”. |
| stranger’s office? | | | | |
| “It was terrible, I was shivering and nervous | | | | 25) Amazing, |
| and my Manager who was training me had to | | | | tell us about that sale please? |
| accompany me in his office. I was running out of | | | | Again there was no cruise ship on this day, this |
| words. That customer did not buy from me”. | | | | couple had come from Royal Plantations resort in |
| | | | | Jamaica and I knew only rich people can afford to |
| 4) What happened next? | | | | stay there, so I started showing a very |
| “It was the first time I had to deal with failure | | | | expensive diamond ring to this lady and she fell in |
| and I was really finding it difficult to deal with but | | | | love with it. I asked her to walk outside the shop |
| the positive outcome was I started thinking, what | | | | and see the ring in the sunlight as diamond needs |
| went wrong and then I started working on my | | | | light to dazzle and sparkle. She said are you sure, |
| sales and marketing strategies”. | | | | I said absolutely, please go ahead. She went out |
| | | | | with her man and came back after 20 seconds. I |
| 5) Did you want to quit? | | | | was waiting with my heart in my mouth but this |
| “I had a never say die attitude and I was | | | | was a risk I had to take. She came back and |
| always stubborn, I decided to learn everything | | | | then I asked her to see the ring in the mirror. It |
| about sales and marketing”. | | | | just blinded her as it was a special diamond cut by |
| | | | | Lazare Diamond company and it weighed approx. |
| 6) Did you get any success from that job | | | | 2.10 cts and the colour and clarity was F, VS1. |
| and experience of cold calling? | | | | |
| “Absolutely, within the next 6 months, I was | | | | One can buy a ring like that for approx. $15,000 |
| one of their best salesman but not the best”. | | | | US Dollars with it but will have a couple of carbon |
| | | | | spots on the diamond which takes away the |
| 7) Wow, what a transformation, how did you | | | | beauty and this one was absolutely flawless. The |
| manage that? | | | | lady likes it, now it all comes down to the man |
| “I watched everybody, how they use their | | | | because he is buying. I offered him a beer and he |
| sales pitch, involve the customer with themselves | | | | gladly accepted it. I always followed the basic rule, |
| in a conversation, the art of convincing and closing | | | | praise the lady and tease the man. I said she is a |
| the sale”. | | | | very beautiful lady. He smiled and asked how |
| | | | | much is the ring, I said $33,000 US Dollars and |
| 8) How long did you work for them? | | | | honestly I was not expecting him to buy it. He |
| “Not very long, as I got an better offer from | | | | gave me his Black American Express credit card |
| Andromedia Marketing, Direct Sales Agents for | | | | and politely asked, can you make it 30k please? I |
| Citibank and this time I was selling Citibank credit | | | | said yes but was shivering as this was my highest |
| cards”. | | | | sale and my boss helped me get over it”. |
| | | | | |
| 9) How was your experience with | | | | 26) What |
| Andromedia Marketing? | | | | happened after Jamaica? |
| “I was good but unfortunately I did not stay | | | | “I decided to work at Sea for Harding |
| with them for a long time as I became a part of | | | | Brothers Ltd, based in Bristol, on the cruise ship, |
| Esscom Marketing, Direct Sales Agents for ICICI | | | | Ocean Village 2. Here my highest sale was |
| Bank”. | | | | £5300.00 Pounds to an old couple. I know you |
| | | | | want to know the whole story about this |
| 10) Why did | | | | sale”. |
| you keep changing your jobs? | | | | “Well our weekly target was £21,000 |
| “Good question, Mumbai is a big city but all | | | | Pounds and we had done only £15,000 Pounds in |
| agencies keep an eye on the field salesmen and | | | | that particular week, my manager who was a girl |
| each company tries to get the best salesman in | | | | from New Zealand comes to me and says, Max |
| their organisation for better results in more sales, | | | | you need to do something and I said the shops |
| I was a victim too”. | | | | are closed and it is 11.00 pm. What can I do? The |
| | | | | shops were open from 5.00 pm to 11.00 pm and |
| 11) How long | | | | the doors were shut. |
| it took you to be spotted by these agencies? | | | | This couple wanted to see me. They had seen |
| “Three Years, By this time I was good at | | | | me earlier in the week and I was showing them a |
| selling sand to the Arabs”. | | | | three stone diamond ring. They come after the |
| | | | | doors were shut and we were closed. I opened |
| | | | | the doors and sold them a ring. This man was old |
| 12) What was | | | | and he said I am going to die soon and I asked |
| the next phase in your career with sales and | | | | why what happened? He said it was because of |
| marketing? | | | | asbestos. I felt very sorry for him and asked him |
| “Most of my family is settled in the Middle | | | | how many children he had? He replied three |
| East, but as an individual I wanted to explore the | | | | daughters and as I was showing them a three |
| Western World such as United Kingdom, United | | | | stone diamond ring, I said one for each daughter. |
| States of America, Canada etc. I kept reading the | | | | That is it. He bought the ring. Sometimes you |
| newspaper, Mid-Day especially on a Wednesday | | | | have to associate sentiments with purchase and |
| where you would find thousands of classifieds and | | | | people buy jewellery to celebrate anniversaries, |
| see the jobs available abroad. It is because of this | | | | birthdays, special occasions etc”. |
| newspaper I found a job in Ocho-Rios, Jamaica, | | | | |
| West Indies. This was a high end jewellery store, | | | | 27) How was |
| House of Diamonds with a couple of stores very | | | | the pressure of being a champion salesman? |
| close to the cruise ship pier and they were looking | | | | “It was tough because every time I would |
| for a Manager who had some experience in sales | | | | speak to a customer, good results were |
| and marketing”. | | | | expected and I needed to be consistent with my |
| | | | | figures as I did $100,000 US Dollars every single |
| 13) Please tell | | | | month as we had an excel sheet with all the |
| us about your experience in Jamaica? | | | | names and sales figures. I always wanted to lead. |
| “I worked in Jamaica for three years from | | | | People at times said, Max can begin the |
| 5th Apr 2004 to 11th July 2007”. Since this | | | | conversation but not close the sale. I came up |
| was a high end jewellery store, I had a lot of | | | | with a trick. My hobby was collecting police |
| difficulties for the first six months”. The | | | | officers and firemen’s patches. I asked every |
| biggest problem was the cultural difference | | | | customer to send me one patch from their town |
| between India and Jamaica, language, lifestyle and | | | | and in return I would give them a special price. |
| me not knowing anything about jewellery”. | | | | This worked and in no time, I had one patch |
| | | | | from every town of United States of America |
| 14) How did | | | | and I got a lot of sales”. |
| you manage working in such difficult conditions? | | | | |
| “During the first six months, I was learning | | | | 28) Can we |
| everything about diamonds, gemstones, watches, | | | | start with some Sales Coaching now? |
| gold, carat weight, colour, cut etc. I read books | | | | “Please go ahead, I will now show you the |
| about diamonds and gemstones which my boss | | | | magic of a champion salesman”. |
| gave me and I kept reading that book till late in | | | | |
| the nights because our store was very close to | | | | 29) What are |
| the cruise ship pier and next day we would have | | | | the different types of selling? |
| passengers coming on a cruise ship”. | | | | “That is easy, product, service and concept |
| | | | | selling”. |
| 15) Tell us | | | | |
| about your first customer in Jamaica? | | | | 30) Which is |
| “A lady walked in the store for the first time, | | | | the most difficult? |
| from the cruise ship and I did not want to speak | | | | “All three but in all honesty I have sold |
| to her as I did not know what to say, my boss | | | | everything and my experience says it is concept |
| asked me to speak to her, she wanted an | | | | selling because there is no product or service but |
| everyday watch and I was showing her some | | | | plain dreams that you are selling such as Time |
| Skagen watches and she liked one but did not | | | | Share”. |
| buy because the crystals were inside the glass | | | | |
| and not on the outside and she left the store, this | | | | 31) Who are |
| is where the story of the champion salesman | | | | the best three salesmen? |
| begins. My boss asked me the reason of that lady | | | | “Car Salesman, Property Salesman and |
| not buying the watch. I said the crystals and he | | | | Jewellery Salesman”. |
| was actually listening to my conversation with | | | | |
| that lady and he said you could have said, the | | | | 32) What are |
| company does not do crystals on the outside | | | | the qualities of a good salesman? |
| anymore as people complaining of them coming | | | | “Very good question, smart, cunning, instant, |
| off and they end up losing the crystals, that was | | | | one that can overcome obstacles with a smile, |
| an eye opener”. | | | | good with words, one that has good general |
| | | | | knowledge, product knowledge and one that can |
| 16) Tell us | | | | maintain constant eye contact, one who can |
| more about your experience in Jamaica? | | | | understand the customer needs, knows |
| “Well there were some other obstacles that I | | | | competition etc”. |
| needed to overcome. One of them was the | | | | |
| geographical knowledge about United States of | | | | 33) Tell us |
| America. I have never been there. In sales | | | | how you in past overcame an obstacle? |
| general knowledge always helps. Let me give you | | | | “I was in Jamaica and was showing a ring to a |
| some examples, if someone says Illinois, I said | | | | lady and she asked if this diamond was blood free |
| Chicago. If someone says Maryland, I said | | | | because it was during this time that the movie |
| Baltimore. If someone says Texas, I said Austin. | | | | came out, Blood Diamond. I told her it was blood |
| If someone says Kentucky, I said fried chicken. I | | | | free because the movie had just come out and |
| read and studied the Atlas to get some general | | | | this diamond was found a year ago. Does not |
| idea about United States of America and was | | | | make a lot of sense but it did the trick and closed |
| trying to familiarise myself with different states, | | | | the sale for $5,000 US Dollars”. |
| towns, counties, their specialities and if someone | | | | |
| said Mid-West, what they were referring to?” | | | | 34) Three |
| | | | | important things for a good salesman? |
| 17) What was | | | | “A-S-K, Attitude, Skill and Knowledge”. |
| the major difference between selling Jamaica | | | | |
| & Mumbai? | | | | 35) Tell us |
| “Fantastic question, when I was in Mumbai, | | | | how you determine in seconds about the |
| the job involved cold calling that means the | | | | customer? |
| salesperson approaching the suspects and it was | | | | |
| a process of converting those suspects into | | | | “By looking at people and their appearance, it |
| prospects. In Jamaica, it was the other way | | | | is just like a book”. |
| around. I was in the store behind the counters | | | | A) Clean Shaven, Suit needs very |
| and the passengers from the cruise ship | | | | professional approach. |
| approached me. Sales is like cars, surprised, let | | | | B) Not shaven, wearing shorts needs an |
| me explain please. You need to change gears | | | | casual approach. |
| according to product, service, concept, customer | | | | C) Denim jeans, Rolex Watch, Clark Shoes |
| and various situations”. | | | | definitely believes in Brands. |
| | | | | D) Big guy, tattoos, pierced is very careless |
| 18) Very | | | | and becomes friendly instantly. |
| interesting, tell us more about Jamaica? | | | | |
| “The company hired four boys from Mumbai, | | | | 36) Is there an formula to follow in Sales? |
| I was one of them. There were local Jamaican | | | | A) Meet and Greet |
| girls working in the store and the bosses who | | | | B) Introduction |
| were brothers were always on the sales floor. | | | | C) Presentation |
| They were the best salespeople, I have ever | | | | D) Short Stories |
| seen in my life. What makes me say that, I have | | | | E) Close |
| seen them sell jewellery worth $98,000 to | | | | F) Rehash |
| someone who has never seen them before and | | | | |
| in fact has landed for the first time in Jamaica. I | | | | 36) Any other |
| learnt a lot from them”. | | | | ideas? |
| | | | | “Ask open and closed questions, such as |
| 19) How was | | | | would you like a beer or brandy? The person is |
| your career progressing in Jamaica? | | | | forced to pick one of the two. That means the |
| “Well I worked in Jamaica for just over three | | | | salesperson is in the Driver’s seat. These |
| years, the first year was the learning process, the | | | | questions help the salesman determine which way |
| second year I was confident and the third year, I | | | | the customer is heading towards. Also you need |
| was the best salesman in that shopping mall, Taj | | | | to make the customer talk and the salesperson |
| Mahal Plaza as there were another 14 jewellery | | | | should know what the customer wants to |
| stores in the same mall and the competition was | | | | hear”. |
| fierce. The other store managers and owners | | | | |
| knew that once I start speaking to a customer, I | | | | 37) What the |
| will close the sale”. | | | | customer wants to hear, please explain? |
| | | | | “There is a trick to break the ice and make |
| 20) What | | | | the customer talk, you can simply break the ice |
| made you a champion salesman? | | | | by talking about profession, hobbies, culture, |
| “Desire to win, learn, perform and show my | | | | country, locations, sports, latest news and events |
| colleagues what I am capable of on the sales floor | | | | etc. Hence a good salesperson needs to know |
| and as actions speak louder than words, I was | | | | what is going around in the world. For instance if |
| always in action”. | | | | the customer is from United States of America |
| | | | | you will now talk about Barrack Obama or if the |
| 21) Can you | | | | customer is from United Kingdom, Alan Sugar or |
| remember some sales that you made in Jamaica? | | | | X-Factor would be a good talk”. |
| “Absolutely, here is one example. On a | | | | |
| Saturday morning, a couple was wandering around | | | | 38) How else |
| the mall. There was no cruise ship on that | | | | can you determine about the customer? |
| particular day. This couple walks inside my shop | | | | “Very easy, expressions, looks and |
| and bought a pair of plain gold earrings worth | | | | movements of the body. |
| $50.00 US Dollars. I asked for $55.00 and they | | | | A) Rubbing his chest means not comfortable |
| were bargaining for $5.00 US Dollars. What | | | | and does not trust salesman. |
| happened next was History. I then started | | | | B) Legs crossed, totally negative. |
| showing a bracelet to the same lady, she liked it | | | | C) Nodding his neck to your statements, the |
| and was resistant to buy it which was $7,000 US | | | | customer is listening to you. |
| Dollars. The man asked the lady if she likes it. She | | | | D) Sat backwards, feels that the salesperson |
| said yes. Immediately I commented, I have never | | | | is entering his/her personal area. |
| seen that bracelet look so good on anybody ever. | | | | |
| He gave me his credit card. I was shocked and | | | | |
| surprised. The man was a president of some big | | | | 39) Can |
| organisation in Madison, Wisconsin. Since they | | | | someone become a Champion Salesman? |
| were coming from the beach, they were wearing | | | | “Absolutely, anyone can become a champion |
| beach wear. So you never know, who you talking | | | | salesman provided he or she gets the right |
| to and I wanted to learn more about people’s | | | | training”. |
| appearances”. | | | | |
| | | | | 40) How can |
| | | | | you help staff and employees or different |
| 22) Was | | | | organisations? |
| there a time you were not comfortable selling in | | | | “I can give Sales Seminars for three hours |
| Jamaica? | | | | and work with the sales staff. I can analyse |
| “This is going to make you laugh, when I | | | | immediately what they need to do and which |
| landed in Jamaica, we had only one line of Skagen | | | | areas they need to work and correct themselves. |
| watches from Denmark which range from $50.00 | | | | The Seminar would cost £500.00 GBP and I can |
| USD to $150.00 USD. But the owner wanted to | | | | visit any location in United Kingdom and after |
| get high end watches. In the next few months | | | | attending my seminar the sales team will triple |
| after visiting the Basel show in Switzerland, he | | | | their sales immediately. To make bookings in |
| acquired some new watch lines such as Bertolucci, | | | | advance please e-mail me at |
| Maurice Lacroix, Paul Picot, Elini, Perrellet, | | | | Do you want to or train your staff and |
| Chase-Durer, Wenger etc. When I was a kid, I | | | | employees to become a champion salesman? |
| use to take my Casio watch to the watch guy to | | | | |
| repair it and these lines, the watches ranged from | | | | Courtesy: |
| $250.00 USD to $35,000 USD. | | | | Max Kumar. |
| | | | | Managing Director. |
| We received the watches and displayed them in | | | | Max Business Solutions Ltd. |